Anti-Missionary Rabbi Michael Skobac: It Would Have Been Nice If Jesus Were Moshiach

Here is an absolutely fascinating talk from anti-missionary Jews For Judaism rabbi Michael Skobac.

Obviously, Skobac does not think Jesus really was Moshiach. After all, his career is trying to convince Jews that Jesus wasn’t Moshiach! This only makes his line of argument even more intriguing, coming as it does from Skobac’s religious and professional perspective.

Skobac thinks that Jesus was a Torah-observant Jew. He thinks Jesus was righteous, and there was nothing about him to mark him out as an evil, negative or disobedient man.

Skobac doesn’t think there is anything sinister about Jesus claiming to be Moshiach, and actually thinks this is something healthy and positive for committed, zealous and sincere Jews, to believe they might be the catalyst for change in Hashem’s kingdom.

Watch from 08:45:

Assuming that it’s a person that could be theoretically in the ballpark, which means it’s someone who minimally is a religious Jew, that’s learned, that seems to have some leadership qualities – if the person claims to be the Messiah, on some level a healthy response would be Hal thy – “it would be nice”. It would be nice if you turned out to be the Moshiach, it would be very nice. Meaning, I don’t know for sure, I suspect you probably are a little bit deluded, but it would be nice if it was true. The point I’m trying to make is that the idea of someone being Moshiach is not an unhealthy impulse. I think that it’s a positive thing to be the Moshiach. You’re gonna be the force, you’re gonna be the agent, to make the world a much better place. So for a person to have this impulse, that I’m gonna be the one that’s gonna basically bring this world to its fulfillment, that’s not a bad thing to think. That’s not an evil thought, that’s a positive thought! On some level, maybe everyone should think that about themselves! I wanna be someone who’s gonna change this world. I wanna be someone who’s gonna make this world a better place. I’m not talking about someone claiming [to be] a great cult leader [or] a great dictator. The concept itself to be Moshiach is not an evil concept, it’s a positive concept. So, you have someone named Jesus, 2000 years ago, who thought he was the Moshiach. That was what he thought about himself. And he persuaded a group of people to follow him [and] that he was the Messiah.

Moshiach

14 thoughts on “Anti-Missionary Rabbi Michael Skobac: It Would Have Been Nice If Jesus Were Moshiach

  1. The Jewish Bible agrees with Rabbi Skobac: we know Jesus wasn’t the messiah in the same way that we know everyone else wasn’t the messiah–he didn’t fulfill the relevant Jewish prophecies:

    * He wasn’t patrilineally descended from David
    * He didn’t rebuild the Temple
    * He didn’t gather exiled Jews to Israel
    * He didn’t establish everlasting world peace
    * He was not a religiously observant Jew
    * He didn’t end all death and illness forever
    * He didn’t convince the members of the various gentile religions to serve only the G-d of Israel

    Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

    But most importantly, Christians deify and worship Jesus. This is not something Rabbi Skobac or any Jew can condone, since the First Commandment prohibits having any other god before the G-d of Israel.

    • So would it be fair to say that Jesus was either a liar, a lunitic, or really who he says he was? Of course if he is the Messiah, then deifying him and worshipping his isn’t an immoral, wrong, bad thing at all, don’t you think?

      • It is absolutely a grave sin to deify or worship anyone other than Yahweh! He wasn’t Yahweh! It doesn’t matter who Jesus is!

      • No. It would not be fair. The trichotomy lacks the most important possibility: that Jesus was just mistaken. There are many people who truly believe that something is true and believe they have good reasons for it. For example, some people believe that their child died (God forbid) because they are told by a policeman or a soldier or someone else who is perceived as honest that their child is dead. However, it may be that the child was perceived to have died, but actually went AWOL or has been relocated by the police for protection. The parents’ belief in this case that the child is dead is honest, but it is just mistaken. Jesus’ self-perception that he was the Messiah was the same: honest but mistaken.

  2. The point I’m trying to make is that the idea of someone being Moshiach is not an unhealthy impulse.

    For sure. I can relate to that. We want there to be a deliverer, a hero, a maker of a new and better way. In case of Messiah, why not be open to a spritiual interpretation of salvation?

  3. Aryan Ken,

    You’re a lying son of a gun.

    You’ve boasted that you are an Aryan on multiple occasions here that I am aware of. Now you deny it, and you have the audacity to call me a liar. Unbelievable.

    Here is Ken the anti-Semitic liar in his own words: http://roshpinaproject.com/2011/03/08/the-mishechist-movement-in-poland-1940/#comment-18523.

    Joseph/Gev: How much longer will you tolerate Ken’s rants about “greedy for money Jews”? Now is the time for all good men to act.

    • Joseph/Gev: How much longer will you tolerate Ken’s rants about “greedy for money anti-missionaries like Yad LaChem and their rental mobs”?

      I suppose Ken’s honest observations about the intolerance and bigotry of Yad and their ilk will end when Israel finally defends the rights of MJs. I look forward to that solution!

    • “Joseph/Gev: How much longer will you tolerate Ken’s rants”

      For as long as we tolerate your rants probably, we either ban you both or neither.

  4. I suppose Ken’s honest observations about the intolerance and bigotry of Yad and their ilk will end when Israel finally defends the rights of MJs. I look forward to that solution!

    Don’t hold your breath!!!

  5. THE JEWS are spiritually blinded by YAWEH himself. THEY are no less blinded than muslims. if you are not christian your opinion counts for nothing concerning JESUS. dear jewish rabbis look at the enemies camped around ISRAEL,a world wide poverty that is not stabilizing,record natural disasters. HOW long do you think a new MESSIAH would have to get here before a total collapse of the world system? people think, the world situation and its seriousness are being ignored because you cant discern the signs of the times. JESUS said I AM THE WAY,THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.HE WILL RETURN READY OR NOT.

    • This doesn’t make sense. Do you think G-d is constrained by time? He can send His messiah whenever He chooses and will only cause to occur what He wants to the “enemies camped around Israel” when He wants.Your sill comment shows a lack of faith in G-d.

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